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I picked up this boat and trailer at the start of 2010. I did a quick and easy mount of the trolling motor, ran some wires and fished it hard last year. Now it is time to rebuild this boat.

The plans are to replace all the wood in the boat with Jatoba (Brazilian Cherry Wood) - It is a very hard wood and I am using it because it was available at a great price. I am also stripping the paint and plan on using steelflex for the bottom but have not decided how to paint the above water portion or the inside yet. I will be putting in a shallow floor in the bow and adding a top area to mount the trolling motor again. I would Also like to enclose the area behind the back bench now that i have a duel bank charger to install.

This is the boat with last years addition of the TM. A few things i want to improve on is the TM mounting, Installing a floor and getting the fuel away from the battery.
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Here are some recent photos of the boat striped of all things that attach to it. The previous owner put a lot of holes through the gunnel. As a result i am in the process of patching them with epoxy putty while preparing the wood.

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I have been using a wire cup & wheel on my drill to remove the previous coats of paint, but i do not like the pattern that technique leaves behind. I will most likely be running the first part of the season with no paint on the boat. From advice I found here on tinboats, i will be using a scotch pad on my orbital hand sander. I have used it on a test area and like the results.

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I will post more as I continue to work on the project. I have a mid April deadline, but i need to get out and fish way before that.
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Update on the work. Picked up a piece of aluminum channel 2x1x1x1/8. I used this as the center rail for my flooring. I will be putting a shallow floor in the front 2/3 of the boat. Now where did i put that rivet gun? I still need to source the channel for the cross pieces to be attached to the ribs.

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I have been continuing the work on the wooden pieces (benches, gunnel) I got the front bench extended and started collecting the hardware needed to start piecing this back together.

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My goal is to get the hardware and holes drilled for the gunnel by the end of this weekend.
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The work on the boat has been slow at best. I did manage to get the wood for the bow (troling motor mount area) cut and fitted. I picked up some 1x1x1.5" aluminum channel and started work on the raised flooring. I am attaching the cross pieces to the ribs and will cut a raiser to go from the beam to the cross pieces. I will basically have two sections of raised floor. The first between the front bench and the bow. The second between the front seat and the removed middle bench. Here are a couple more photos

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Nice job up top on the caps. I like the look with the wood. Are you gonna follow that with the bench seats, and floor, as well? Just thought I'd pop in, and say good job. I got my boat about two yrs ago, and haven't done any mods yet, just fished. So, don't worry about the progress. Unless that's keepin you off the water. If that's the case, get it in gear. Just joshin. Keep up the good work.

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That wood looks nice. =D> We may have to start a Starcraft club with all the builds going on.
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Thanks guys. Unfortunately I don't have enough of the wood to do the floor with it. I will be putting down some Plywood and carpet for the floor. The front, gunnel, seats and transom are all done with the jatoba though. At this stage none of the wood is finished (protected) The inside of the top rail has some tung oil on it so i could see the color. I will be removing all the pieces, sanding them, and then apply some tung oil followed up with some spar varnish.

I should have some photos of the floor bracing by the end of the week. I am scheduled to take the boat into the welder early next week to get the floor supports attached.
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Are you going to add any floatation? Boat looks great, love the wood.

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Ictalurus wrote:Are you going to add any floatation? Boat looks great, love the wood.
I removed the boxes under the benches that originally came with the boat. I do plan on adding the flotation foam that you mix to the voids under the new floor. Although it will primarily be in the bow and mid section. My understanding about the reason for the flotation foam is that if the boat starts taking on water, the foam will help keep it from completely sinking. I think i read somewhere, not to expect the foam to save your life, just your boat. :D - Please correct me if I am wrong.
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SkagBass wrote:My understanding about the reason for the flotation foam is that if the boat starts taking on water, the foam will help keep it from completely sinking.
That's what I've heard. Will float just enough to keep the outboard high enough out of the water long enough to get to shore, same as you, correct me if I'm wrong :lol:

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Nice work so far. That wood is a nice touch. Can't wait to see it after you sand and stain it. Some brass fasteners would would be a really nice touch with the wood imho. Screws, davits, hooks on the ropes, etc.

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Ictalurus wrote:
SkagBass wrote:My understanding about the reason for the flotation foam is that if the boat starts taking on water, the foam will help keep it from completely sinking.
That's what I've heard. Will float just enough to keep the outboard high enough out of the water long enough to get to shore, same as you, correct me if I'm wrong :lol:
Does anyone have any idea how much extra time this magic foam really buys us? I added some, but mainly to cut down on noise. I have a feeling a lot of us on here have a false sense of security adding a few padded cushions under their 400 pound frame, myself included. I've decided that since I've got so much money tied up in my gear that if my boat starts going under, I'm going down with the ship! I'll have my thumb up and everything as I sink...just like that final scene from Terminator 2.

The boat looks awesome so far dude. I really like the color of that wood. Is that cedar?

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Thank you HOUSE,

You bring up a good point about the foam and sound insulation. Like you, i am more worried about the gear than the boat. The boat originally had foam under the benches but I have removed the boxes during this rebuild. I don't plan on putting them back.

The wood is called Jatoba (Brazilian Cherry Wood) - This stuff is so hard you could use it to cut cedar :P

Update: I got all of the aluminum bracing cut and fitted for the floor last night. I will get some photos this weekend after if finish prepping the areas on the boat where the welds will go.
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I have a few questions to ask you all. I have started thinking about the electrical layout. I have included couple of drawings to get input from those in the know. I want to have a 24v system and a 12v system. Livewell, lights & sonar will be running off the 12v and the TM will be running off of the 24v.

First, looking at the 24v diagram,
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My question here is in reference to breakers on a 24v system. Should i get one breaker rated at 24v and install it in position 'B' or should i go with two 12v Breakers installed for each battery at position 'A' ? I do want the main power to the TM ran through a 24v switch as well.

Now looking at the 12v diagram,
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1) looking at the switches, i can see that i need two different types of switches. I am not familiar as to what to call these when trying to source parts. The first switch for the lights (C) would need to have one switch that control two lights. Is that Double Pole Single Throw?
2) The second would be two switches, one for livewell and one for sonar. Would these be called Single Pole Single Throw?
3) I also have a MinKota duel bank charger to install for the 24v system. When charging the batteries in the 24v setup, do i need to disconnect the cable that ties the two batteries together (+ to -) before turning on the charger?
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HOUSE wrote:
Ictalurus wrote:
SkagBass wrote:My understanding about the reason for the flotation foam is that if the boat starts taking on water, the foam will help keep it from completely sinking.
That's what I've heard. Will float just enough to keep the outboard high enough out of the water long enough to get to shore, same as you, correct me if I'm wrong :lol:
Does anyone have any idea how much extra time this magic foam really buys us? I added some, but mainly to cut down on noise. I have a feeling a lot of us on here have a false sense of security adding a few padded cushions under their 400 pound frame, myself included. I've decided that since I've got so much money tied up in my gear that if my boat starts going under, I'm going down with the ship! I'll have my thumb up and everything as I sink...just like that final scene from Terminator 2.

The boat looks awesome so far dude. I really like the color of that wood. Is that cedar?
I have had the same concern about the foam flotation. Does anyone know about how much foam you would need to keep the boat at the surface just enough to tow to shore? Besides loosing the money and time invested in your boat I am sure that your local fish and game commission would have a nice little fine for you?

I know when it would fill with water it would not weigh as much because of the bouyancy of the water. Is there a certain cubic foot amount to work for?

I know that there is very little foam under the bench seats now from the boat company.
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Polyurethane foam (closed cell foam) has a buoyancy of approximately 60 lbs per cubic foot. So divide the weight of your boat, motor and everything inside by 60 and that will give you a good approximation of how much foam you will need in order to keep your boat from sinking if you get swamped.