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Boys I just finished up a 1436 mod and I think I'm getting into a new project in this '85 1648 mon ark. Solid Jon with heavy duty ribbing. Got to restore first before decking etc.

It's got some serious pitting going on and I will need to clean up the livewell. Is there a good post that lays how how to go through a full restore a-z-- regarding old paint removal, sanding, prep, painting , aluminum restore etc? How best to clean up the livewell?

Thanks Jim


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I just got an old boat that I need to fix up so hopefully I can use some of this build on mine. I got some holes that need to be looked at to see if this boat is worth fixing.

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Ok Im tinkering with some ideas here for this 1985 1648. She is built really solid and the ribs alone I believe make the boat stable.

The boat has a steering wheel and old mount in place, that wont be hard to move but what will the costs be to get "extension" cables for steering wheel to move the console fwd? Is this an easy fix or will i need a whole new steering system.

I want a three man setup and want everyone to have room and use the width of the boat as best I can. So I am debating between a true center console and front right console. Im debating between using the exisiting well in middle bench or tearing it out. I would really like a fully rounded tank for the blueback herrings but rectangular is ok..

the fishing i do requires good access to the rod holders and so I dont want to mount the the front and back seats to the top deck, they will be at floor level, plus its much better stability and with only 20'' walls the reach to cast etc isnt bad at all. plus you dont have to bend down to grab a live rod. See pics and Plans Below! thanks as always ! look fwd to yalls input !!
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I am not sure what you want to do with the steering, but there is really no good way to extend the cable. Steering cables are relatively cheap. I put a brand new teleflex 33c cable in my 21' center console 45 bucks. If you plan on making it a center console the old cable might just have enough scope to move to the location. I looks like there is some slack in the cable itself.
You should be able to re-use the wheel, and might even fab the old side console into a center console....that cable looks to be in good shape from the pics.
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i agree, thanks bud-

Now i am debating where to put the Fish finder. If im solo I sure like it up front but with a crew and while driving I would want to mount it on the steering console, decsions!

where can I get a cheap windshield to fab to this existing steering console, I will have to mod the console for the throttle

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Most box stores have plexi-glass. I bought a small piece a few years back and cut the shape that I wanted. I would guess with some aluminum angle iron you could easily put together a windshield cheaper than one purchased from the online places. BTW sure is nice to see your starting from bare bones.....that is what I did. It has been a long time but each step makes me feel better about finishing my project. Good luck take lots of pics for us. Oh by the way I like your design #1 if that counts for anything.
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ROD HOLDERS and RAILS

I am debating on how to do this, in a solid, well built fashion- and cheap!

I like the driftmaster holders as they are made well, easy to use, etc. $15 a pop. plus if you use there mounts $10 each mount.

I want to build a rail like others have done, but do so cheaply as well as solid. The driftmaster T bars are $60 so i might save alot of time and work just doing that, but If i can get it done for less than the $120 in T bars ill mod myself. Plus the T bars just have the one center bar so it might not be as stable as I want.

Any ideas/ Feedback would be awesome and or cheap alum sources besides the nice stuff at west marine and home depot. those parts ADD up quick.
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Quick video showing how the rails work: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6cbZIlywes



Have you considered mounting the holders to the gunwale or a flat surface in the boat instead of a rail?

I had a few objectives to meet when I designed them:
- I like to anchor fish from the stern of the boat so that the bow is pointing into the current or wind
- Holders can't be in the way when not in use because my boat is small.
- Holders need to be close to the seats so that you don't have to move a lot to get to them when fishing.
- Holders have to be inside the gunwales of the boat. From a bird's eye view the holders can't be outside of the boat.
- Have to be strong enough to handle a 70+lb catfish (biggest so far on them is about 40lbs).

After a year or more and several design concepts in Google Sketchup and thought experiments (I spent hours sitting in the boat in the driveway pretending I was fishing!), I came up with these. My advice would be to create a list of requirements for your fishing needs and go from there.
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AWESOME setup-

I have been debating, the costs of Modding a system vs buying a pre fab setup and bc my system will only have 2 rods per back side, 4 total. and I will be flush mounting to the deck inside the boat for sure and not the rails. I might just buy this below

the T500 and the T009 are great, and when you add up the rod holders (base) alone the costs make since, say $40, PLUS i dont have to mod anything. The T009 system is $58 at this great site- shipping cheap- I can building anything that cheap esp at this quality level.

check it out if ya care! Thanks man!

https://bottomdwellerstackle.com/driftmaster_tbars.htm

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The driftmaster T's are nice. If you go with the shorter unit, the solid rod is fine. With the taller units I recommend the ones that have a tube for the upright. The taller units with solid rod upright vibrate A LOT when you're running.

The star bases are nice because you can remove the entire T pretty easily. You could buy a few extra bases and move the holders around as needed.

There are a lot of good rod holders on the market, but in my opinion Driftmaster's are the best all around.

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I agree thanks RiverBottom.

Wire Question-

If I have my trolling battery in the center bench( big group 23?) , and my trolling motor on the front bow, that means I would have to run roughly 10' feet of wire from battery to motor- is this ok to have the length that long? Def adding a amp breaker up front.

Jim

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I think you'll be fine. I had to run wires 25' for a 36 volt TM I had on a center console. There is an amperage drop after extended runs and up grade in wire size. You can find charts on these things on West Marine or other sights, but at 10' I think it would be nominal.

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What size wire, 14 gauge no, 6 gauge yes.

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And so it begins! Hope to get her all done in a month or two.

Just go her in the garage and ready to begin!

I briefly tested some of that Klean-Strip® KS-3 Premium Stripper I picked up at wal-mart. Its def gets the paint off. It will need a thicker application for some of the floor as its got some factory slip resistant grit to it. THe stuff bubbles up quicker than 15 minutes and its ready to scrap around 5 minutes. At 15 minutes (as directions say) the stuff has already hardened back up and wont remove paint- temp today- it was low 60's in Atlanta this morning.

The existing steering wheel and throttle wiring will need to be extended to be re-mounted as a center console. Ive either got to extend all of those cables or buy a new system. I dont even know where to being with disconnecting it, I got myself a project! The system is all nicely wired from the motor to the throttle/wheel in a very professional / factory manner and I dont want to screw it up. Any help would be great on that!
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