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Big Buck wrote:I know this probally at silly question, but what are those things sticking up everywhere. Are those some kind of Rivot or something? Just a little curious.
The greatest thing made if you are riveting any metal.

There is a little pair of pliers that goes with them, that grips the side, and pushes down on the button on the back. When that is depressed, the front squeezes together, so it will fit in the rivet hole. Then, by releasing the pressure on the pliers, they two tabs on the front pull apart and back, snugly holding the metal together. They are real great, as you can drill a hole, and stick it in, while drilling the next hole, so the material doesn't slip, causing the holes to not line up correctly. But, as opposed to sticking a rivet in each hole as you drill it, you can then remove the whole piece, even after the holes are drilled, to do something else behind said panel.

They were originally designed for aircraft use, but the need for them elsewhere was quickly noticed, so they are in widespread use by most any place that rivets metals, especially aluminum.

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Thanks Sac and others. Glad you chimed in. I am my own inspector on this rig, and am keeping good ED, but don't think I am going to worry too much about a flunked rivet, but as long as I'm not gonna take her up to 35k' and stick massive amounts of pressure to her, it's all good. The clecos are a wonderful thing. I wish I could teach one of my 9 year olds to buck for those hard to reach spots. My cherry max gun bit the dust and may have to use a sheet metal screw at times on this boat. I've got a bit more fabbing and fitting yet to do, but it will all fall into place in time. Hopefully, my goal for the end of January will be met. Wish I could just spend all day working on it. All the other posts have been good input one way or another. I enjoy reading them.

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I was able to put some more time into the back end of the boat the last few days. I've got at least two more days worth of work to complete the "rough in" of the new "tillerized" area. I've stripped all the crap off the trailer to still have it legal and delivered it to Jake so it might get sandblasted as time constraints allow. Here's the photo update of what I was able to do recently.

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I went ahead and modified both original side panels in the back of the boat that once had urethane foam in the areas into storage boxes. I cut each side down and trimmed the scrap piece up in order to make the turn on the storage box and fasten in to an existing rib. This gives me plenty of room in the back of the boat for a 6 gallon tank, batteries, bilge pump and areator. I will also be able to access the area fairly easy to be able to bolt transducers and such. On the port side, above the fuel tank will be a small box open top to house an anchor. The Starboard side will have a hinged lid to allow easy access to the top of the Batteries for connection and charging purposes.

I used the original 5/32" Aluminum decking that was part of the underdeck for fuel and battery storage area as the new decking for the very back of the boat. Notice I cut out part of it on each side to allow plug access, and bilge placement.

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I have quite a way to go, but each day I put into it, gets me that much closer to my desired goal. I have not purchased one thing other than screws so far on the rebuilding project. All material that has not be recycled from the boats original setup, I had on hand in the shop.

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Looks great so far. Great pics! Pictures really tell the story. Keep 'em coming!
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Lookin' real good! 8)
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Very Nice! You got quite a hull to start with, and it looks like you're turning it into one amazing rig! Some day, I think, a deal like that will fall in my lap, and when it does, I'm gonna turn it into a fish catching machine!! In the mean time, I'm really loving turning my jon into a crappie and cat machine!
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I have finally started back on the Rebirth. I am starting to push hard as I have a camping trip scheduled for the 14th of March. Here's the poop....


CrappieDentist was unable to blast the trailer for me at his work till sometime in the Summer. I picked the trailer back up and he let me borrow his portable blaster setup. It was a major pain, but not that bad and the results were great! I was able to remove all rust and paint.

One of the kids had set the camera up for B&W pics and I didn't realize it till after the SD card had been deleted. You can still tell a big difference though.

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I'll complete the trailer with some solid sides for re-loading purposes on down the road. I don't want them in my way for now.

Before I put the boat back on the trailer, I wanted to get some more of the lower decking in. I pulled both sides of the rear decks to add doublers in the areas of the pedestal bases. I wanted to make sure I had some strength as I am going to have to used a wood screw vs. bolts to retain them. The side storage in the back really makes for a cramped area though. I am also placing all pedestal bases in the center. This allows whoever is sitting in one to be able to fish out of either side of the boat with nothing in the way. I am placing two pedestal bases in the back, one for operating the boat, the second for someone to fish out of. I moved it back towards the transom to give whoever is back there a little leg room. Most of the time, I'll be by myself, so it's no big thing. The forward section under deck was just too shallow to house a couple of batteries for the trolling motor. I've decided to stick them right under the bow cover at the front of the boat. It's a perfect fit for two! It will also add needed weight towards the front of the boat.

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I have the forward deck cut, lids for livewell and storage cut, am working on side panel storage to boot. I need to buy some plumbing supplies now to get the water lines run for the livewells, bilges and areators. Once that's done, I'll install the forward decking along with the lids. I still need to create a switch box for the back. I don't want any switches sticking out that can be accidently broken. I plan to do my best to have her ready for carpet sometime Sunday, but I have many things to do before then.

I can begin to see the final product in my head and it looks to be a fine machine.

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Nice work. That thing is starting to look like a CAV.

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this is one of the best mods I've seen... way to go to maximize the area in your boat.

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Brine wrote:Nice work. That thing is starting to look like a CAV.

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You are doing a fantastic job! Your level of workmanship is very thorough. I agree with Russ, this is going to be killer when its done. You also are a motivation to me, because I'm so close, and I wanted it done by now, so I really need to get moving!! Keep up the great work.
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Started the Plumbing last night. After 3 trips to Home Depot and Lowes, I thought I had what I needed to get to the point of fastening the forward deck into position. I was able to run some 3/4" pvc, but found I was short certain things. I plan to PU what I need on my way home tonight and get back after it. I am pushing for a March 11th completion date as I have a camping trip scheduled for the 13th. I want at least one day of on the water testing before I head for the campsite. It will give me the 12th to work out any kinks. Even if I don't have her complete by then, I hope to have it at least functional. Switches and final wiring connections can wait if need be. I can temp all that stuff in for the trip. But, if the weather holds up like it has, I should be able to have her dang near done on time.

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Went to Mizzou for Neices wedding yesterday. Been running some pipe in the boat for the bilge and areators. Everything is 3/4" schedule 40 pvc and reinforced 3/4" hose. I ran the rigid pvc everywhere I could so as not to have a hose close up on me where I couldn't reach it without tearing something out.

The front livewell I built sits too low to be able to drain it like a normal livewell. I have chosen to run a drain line towards the back connected to a shutoff valve then a Tee, the down to the bilge pump. The other side of the Tee has another shutoff valve then has a capped end with holes drilled on the underside to act as a recirculator to areate the water. The inflow comes from the areator at the back of the boat (with inline shutoff) and a 90% turned down to simply fill the livewell. I must be carefull to not leave the areator on too long or I will overfill the livewell. I have a float switch I might connect to the bilge pump to drain or am considering an audible alarm (quiet) to play while the areator is running.

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I'm short one cap on the areator line in the Starboard livewell, but will pick one up tommorrow.

Next job is to figure exactly how many switches, wires, and what not is needed, then to get the rough in done on Electrical. Only then can I cap off the front deck and start final Metal work. I'll be very lucky to be able to lay some carpet this week. I am really trying to push this thing so I can make the Eufaula gig. Wish me luck!

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Dang, that's some plumbing work there! Looks good, and I hope you make your deadline! 8)
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CrappieReaper wrote:I forgot to mention that I plan to turn this boat into a tiller model. I want as much room inside the boat as possible. I came close to modifying it into a center console, but decided a tiller would be best. I currently have a '98, 60hp Mercury tiller that will do the trick.
You should be in jail-Because you stole that boat! =D> It's kind of ironic, I have a boat project (14' shallow V) in which I am trying to install a center console in a boat that had none & is more suited for a tiller & you are doing just the opposite. :-k I know you want more room but, I'd seriously think about keeping or re-vamping that console system. Btw, just curious, whatcha planning on doing with the OB that came with that boat (especially since it ran so well after sitting for so long)?
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