1984 16' Bass Attacker Complete Rebuild

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Not sure about the battery box, but looking at the bow I would go with the more simplistic "V" shape and probably lay them in there at a 45 degree-ish angle. Just my preference, I think the deck would look like it flows to the bow a little better, it wouldn't be so abrupt.

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kalninm wrote:Not sure about the battery box, but looking at the bow I would go with the more simplistic "V" shape and probably lay them in there at a 45 degree-ish angle. Just my preference, I think the deck would look like it flows to the bow a little better, it wouldn't be so abrupt.
I think your right, I’m definitely leaning more towards the V configuration.
I really need to get that portion finished so I can start making my TM mount and storage inside of that. I’ll play around with that setup some today and see if I can find a happy medium.

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I like the first idea not the v. It is going to be a little bit harder to make your vertical pieces but hell you've already got the top cut out

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Those R&R hatches are the truth. Only issue with them is that if a you get liquid in them they will fill up in the trough around the hatch and overflow into the compartment. If you are concerned about it I would drill a hole in the corner of the trough and Weld a small pipe to it. Then you can sleeve over the pipe with a rubber hose and run it to the bottom of the boat. Just some food for thought if you ever leave the boat uncovered or get caught in a rainstorm

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Prowelder wrote:I like the first idea not the v. It is going to be a little bit harder to make your vertical pieces but hell you've already got the top cut out

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Thanks Brother ! Didn’t know if you had an idea or not on this part. The biggest factor in the beginning was welding all the angles but I feel comfortable enough now to make it happen and paint covers a lot LOL.

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Bigwrench wrote:
Prowelder wrote:I like the first idea not the v. It is going to be a little bit harder to make your vertical pieces but hell you've already got the top cut out

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Thanks Brother ! Didn’t know if you had an idea or not on this part. The biggest factor in the beginning was welding all the angles but I feel comfortable enough now to make it happen and paint covers a lot LOL.
If you do decide to go with the V it would probly looking a lot better if you've cut it back on an angle like you are thinking about. I have faith in you I think you can make you with the more complicated front. It would really give it a lot more character.

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Bigwrench wrote:
Prowelder wrote:I like the first idea not the v. It is going to be a little bit harder to make your vertical pieces but hell you've already got the top cut out

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Thanks Brother ! Didn’t know if you had an idea or not on this part. The biggest factor in the beginning was welding all the angles but I feel comfortable enough now to make it happen and paint covers a lot LOL.
I have faith that you can do it. Just take your time and when you're welding, cool it as you go with a wet rag to keep it from warping. Just make sure you dry it well before re-welding.Make lots of tacks 1st. When you are welding something solid make sure you move around to different areas to keep the heat down. If you decide to go with the simple v. I would definitely Taper it back on the sides like you have with the ruler on it.

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Prowelder wrote:
Bigwrench wrote:
Prowelder wrote:I like the first idea not the v. It is going to be a little bit harder to make your vertical pieces but hell you've already got the top cut out

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Thanks Brother ! Didn’t know if you had an idea or not on this part. The biggest factor in the beginning was welding all the angles but I feel comfortable enough now to make it happen and paint covers a lot LOL.
I have faith that you can do it. Just take your time and when you're welding, cool it as you go with a wet rag to keep it from warping. Just make sure you dry it well before re-welding.Make lots of tacks 1st. When you are welding something solid make sure you move around to different areas to keep the heat down. If you decide to go with the simple v. I would definitely Taper it back on the sides like you have with the ruler on it.

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Thanks for the tips on warpage control , I actually had to deal with that today, was just getting ready to post about that lol and I didn’t think about the wet rag! I did use scrap aluminum panels with heavy steel billet cutoffs on top of them to sorta heat sink away from the weld areas. I cranked the amps up to 130 and after tacking it I would weld for like 4-5 inches and then stop and let it cool and move to another area entirely just jumping back and forth. I still had some issues but I think they are fixed now with the wet rag issue if I run into that again. Thank you !

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Ok so today’s adventures ... had foot surgery on one foot and then shots in the other .... so I was glad to sit down at the table and weld all afternoon Image
I decided his morning to tackle the battery box issue and boy did I ever Image
I decided to use a smaller door for the TM battery tray compartment . I removed the hold down system, rotated the batteries “sideways” in the hull and using the anchor locker door I made (which fit perfectly with just a little tweaking) decided to go for it and fill in the panels on the main deck and start over there Image
Door installed over the batteries with deck removed. Pop riveted the door in place temporarily to see how everything “worked” and made sure the batteries would actually come out if needed at a later date (that woulda sucked later if they wouldn’t come out LOL)
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Placed the deck back in place and marked the area of the door access hole with the other doors installed to make sure everything fits at the same time.
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Using my table on one half and my truck tailgate on the other half of the deck I rough fit 2 scrap panels to fill in the sides to make the hole smaller.
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Welded up the bottom first , hotter than I normally weld to get good penetration.
Used backing plates to prevent “blow out” at corners and tried to fight the warpage from heat with scrap sheets and heavy steel weights. Everything was clamped as tight as I could with what I have available.
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They may not be pretty but that’s the bottom and I had great penetration on the top side .
Flipped it over and sanded the area real good to make a sort of
Concave groove section, cleaned with SS brush and acetone wipe. I had to beat out some warpage and turned amps down to 100 and slowly worked my way around a little at a time very gently !
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I also thought why not use my air nozzle to blow this thing cool after every small pass. Problem was I didn’t think of that until the second side lol. It worked really well after that and as I am new to welding I’m just glad to learn as I go and enjoy a challenge. Image
Once I had those 2 filler panels welded in on both sides I sanded down the welds on the top deck real gently Image
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Marked areas with a sharpie that needed attention and then hit it with various grit on a DA sander. It came out pretty nice !
I also slapped some filler on there while it was still warm lol
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Now this part was just me being silly I guess because after thinking about it the filler probably won’t hold up to human foot traffic and may chip away at a later date Image but I’ll hit those areas in the morning with a long board in-line sander and then the DA again but since the final finish will be thick and textured and of a flat color I don’t think that anything would be even visible lol but anyways we will see how it goes tomorrow ! I will be using prowelders tip on heat control for warpage in the future !! Thanks brother !
Now I will be cutting my brand new R&R hatch (the big one) exactly in half , welding ends on them to match what they made (after receiving them and looking them over I know I can duplicate what they have and not “waste” the new door) and installing these 2 “new” doors on each side of the battery compartment for true dedicated storage areas with lots of room and access ! Trust me when I say I am truly happy with R&Rs hatch lids but didn’t wanna waste what I ordered and may just order the anchor locker lid from them now to keep everything more uniform. The one thing I wondered about with their doors is the hinges stick up more than I expected. Is it a game changer ? No not in the least but the ones I built were extremely flush but took every ounce of “smarts” I had to make happen lol. Definitely recommend R&R designs for your hatch needs Image
I have a little more framing to do to the deck to make it solid and to add the supports for the 2 additional side locker doors. I will then smooth out my greenhorn welds and make sure the deck lays flat and does not rattle :)(that would drive me batty on the water lol).
I will also add drains to each hatch door , even the ones I built with U channel to drain them to the bilge area also thanks again Prowelder !!!
I will make another door for the anchor locker up front and still need to add a water draining system to my built in dedicated ice chest/cooler !!
The front bow panel should be this weekend if I don’t run out of argon again !!! I am at the point where I have to decide on it and get started Image
Thanks for all the great tips, encouragement , ideas and just hanging out !!
After spending 7 months in a traction device I can’t tell y’all how glad I am to be mobile and doing something with my hands again even if it isn’t what I have been doing all my life (wrenchin). Stay tuned this could be epic !!! Ha Ha !

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Very nice!!

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Got some more locker and framing done lately, made 2 hatch doors out of the big one I ordered originally
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Had to match the profile exactly on these
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2 doors all ready to go Image
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Test fit from the bottom section
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Installed some bracing to facilitate the new locker placement
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Everything installed and ready to roll. Made another hatch door from scratch today and it turned out so nice I decided to use it for the TM battery location and put that one back with the anchor locker up front.
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Testing out a graph with one bow design
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Scored a whole bunch of aluminum stock today from a local recycling center at $.80 a pound !!! Don’t forget to check with your local recycling yards, had to pick through a 20 Foot pile of aluminum but really got some nice thick aluminum plate today ! Going to finish the remaining locker dry boxes tomorrow and close in the batteries up front center section.
Going to get Dad started sanding down all the deck and locker surfaces for priming and paint.

Getting very close to having the hard stuff done !

To do list:

Transom board cap and connect to corner caps.
Engine support plate (seriously considering making a manual jack plate but need ideas,photos, dimensions)
Weld up 2 pass-thru holes that were previously used for livewells.
Install Motor !!!
Bow panel design, framing.
TM bracket design with integrated storage.
Tie down cleats.
Purchase complete steering system and install.
Lots of “Fit & Finish” work still.
Prime/paint interior.
Need ideas for fuel fill neck location/install. I am considering installing it in the rear deck, port side sorta recessed into the deck and angled for easy access from the outside while filling.
Fuel tank plumbing/vent install.
Dash gauge layout and install.
All wiring front to rear.
Interior lights and music install.
Float test and foam install.
Lots of work to do still!
Thanks for all the ideas and for hanging out !

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Been busy,busy,busy here lately but here’s some updates Image
Removed the deck and started framing out the front section, added a plate to each side for support
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That Kevlar sealant was a PITA to remove for the welding areas lol.
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1” hole saw worked for perfectly to get the proper angle for 90 degrees to the deck surface.
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Added a cross bar
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Made a coping device to get the 1” square stock to meet the 1” tube. Worked slick !
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At this point I had to make a decision on the bow design before I could finish up the framing up there so I decided to go with the harder design , which was my original plan anyways.
Also used a laser on the center seat framing to make sure all my crappy welds were smoothed out with a flapper disc to ensure the deck lays flat in all directions.
So here goes some of that process. I did make one small change on the fly, I added a 3” vertical rise 90 degrees from the deck first. Image
Laid the top panel on the deck and transferred my lay lines
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Then just started trying to slowly make each angle as nice as possible.
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Welded up the Center section first and then sanded it to make it look completely factory bent.
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Worked my way out from the center. The angles were a little tricky but once I had that figured it went a lot smoother using the chop saw for clean cuts
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Tacked up the sides and I am pretty happy with it now. The transition panels are not as wide as before , the angle is not too steep either.
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Tomorrow I will finish up the two outside panels, remove the deck and weld it all up on the back first and then weld the front and smooth all those out to again make it look like factory bends and transitions.
The top plate is not attached yet
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So I now have all my angles pretty much figured out and can finish up the critical support framing for the panel and the TM support system.
The 3” rise will transition down to the deck at an angle on the two outside edges.
I also drilled all my hatch lids and Beveled the holes to match the R&R hatches.
Just glad to be getting closer to a float test !!!

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Got a little bit done this afternoon , medical appointments keeping me busy this week.
Made a cardboard template
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Got it pretty close
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These are all scrap pieces since I’m low on 1/8”’sheet and had a cut in this one that popped the corner off when I hammered it in lol. Easy fix though.
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Going to cut the tacks at the deck surface tomorrow after Another docs appointment and take that entire section to the welding table and work it over real good. I don’t want the front to look welded at all if I can help it so it will be easier to work with at the table, since I don’t have a torch switch and have to rely on the foot pedal for amp control.
Kinda hard to stand on one foot and lean my 290lbs over the edge of the boat and weld lol.
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This one was a little dirty but they are getting better and easier.
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Should be able to finish up the front bow bracing that will support this and also figure out where the wiring needs to be located now .

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Going to have to throw in the towel on this build and sell it as soon as I can figure out a price and the logistics of it all. Definitely hate to let it go but don’t see any other options at this point. Too many medical problems piling up to be able to see it through till the end.
Thanks for following along and being so patient over the years.

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Sorry to hear it man.


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