Fisher 1860AW... New Boat -- New Construction

russ010 · Post by **russ010** » 17 Dec 2012, 13:06

bigwave wrote:Well I have to say that I understand the whole custom thing......you get what you pay for. I was just curious to a ball park figure, which I figured would be at least 1500, I know how much the aluminum cost. I think I have over 300 bucks in tubing alone on my boat. It is really looking good.

lol, I had already bought 10 sticks of 1x1 tube at 21' long, and I have 5 sticks of 1x1 angle that are 24' long... I think I'll have some leftover

theyyounggun · Post by **theyyounggun** » 17 Dec 2012, 13:51

Dawson does some incredible work.

The build is looking great!

Post by **bassboy1** » 17 Dec 2012, 21:51

I'm not even sure what is in it as far as sheet count - but you can figure anywhere between $250-300 for the sheets being used. Actually - I don't even know what he's used up so far. I will let Dawson say how many sheets of .090 and 1/8" he's used. My guess, total cost for material will be in the range of $1200-1500.

Bigwave, the BOM (bill of material) on Russ's boat was as follows:

.090
5x10 - 1.75 sheets
4x8 - 1 sheet

.125
5x10 - 1.75 sheets

.063
5x10 - .375 sheet

1x1x.125 angle
25' - 1 stick

I'm not going to publish any material prices, as I'm expecting an increase upon the first of the year (but hope I'm wrong, seeing as we had a significant one fairly recently) and they'll no long be relevant. I will say, however, that unless Russ was factoring in the 15 sticks of angle/tube he previously bought that aren't getting used, the materials cost will be a significant amount less than the 1500 he mentioned.

Jr Branham · Post by **Jr Branham** » 17 Dec 2012, 22:48

Dawson,
I'm curious, where was the .063 used in this build??

jr

Post by **bassboy1** » 18 Dec 2012, 01:08

Jr Branham wrote:Dawson,
I'm curious, where was the .063 used in this build??

jr

Drop in box for the tackle trays.

bigwave · Post by **bigwave** » 18 Dec 2012, 09:33

I understand the way the market fluctuates with metal, we by stainless and galvanized cable all the time. I am truly amazed at what you bass guys do with your rigs. I was also curious to what kind of brake you use to bend all the lids and such. I saw one that PSG-1 made with a bottle jack I think. In your opinion how could I make simple bends in sheet aluminum in my garage and how do I do it. I have some ideas for my next build and would like to try my hand at sheet aluminum. The boat looks great so far Bassboy.

Post by **bassboy1** » 18 Dec 2012, 13:27

This is the brake I use. Chicago Dreis and Krump BPO 612-6. Capable of bending 6' of .125 (or 12 gauge steel), and pans (hatch lids) up to 6 inches deep. Weighs well over 2500 pounds. My machine is about 30 years old, and I'm not going to say how many thousands I paid for it, but it was an excellent price.

If all you are doing is making straight bends, something like PSG made could be handy (and if you already have a bearing press, there are a handful of shorter brakes made to slide into those), but if you need to start making pans, boxes, etc, cheap and easy get thrown out the window.

russ010 · Post by **russ010** » 18 Dec 2012, 14:25

Here's more pics resized....

Bugpac · Post by **Bugpac** » 18 Dec 2012, 17:13

Looks good russ, from my experience, u may regret battery placement, yours is a flat bottom tho correct? I tried against the deck in mine with all 4, 400lbs. Didn't work! Glad to see high quality work, I'm still puzzled about mine.

Bugpac · Post by **Bugpac** » 18 Dec 2012, 17:14

O ya, yours makes me wanna do another 1!

russ010 · Post by **russ010** » 18 Dec 2012, 21:35

Bugpac wrote:Looks good russ, from my experience, u may regret battery placement, yours is a flat bottom tho correct?

No... it's a mod-v ... I think it's exactly like yours - just the front deck is a little wider or something. I know there's a few differences between the two from when I saw yours that morning at Lathem, I just don't remember what was a little different.

I'll have 7 batteries back there... so I'll have about 350 pounds in battery weight

Bugpac · Post by **Bugpac** » 18 Dec 2012, 23:59

I originally had mine against the front deck, when i stood up there the transom was 8" above the water, and my 15 wouldn't pick the bow enuff, it just plowed, i moved them back 24" and found the sweet spot, when we modded it i split the difference, 2 against the deck 2 in the rear bench, now i wish i had another 100lbs on the front. With 2 people its close, i just need more hp, with electric only i gain 3/10ths if the rear guy sits on the tackle box right behind me. I thought the batteries were in front on yours you should be pretty good. All my batteries weigh a 100 lbs each, i was debating adding 2 more but likely wont. No more modding to mine, if i get a hair up my bung, ill just build an entire boat. No more length just width

russ010 · Post by **russ010** » 20 Dec 2012, 17:03

Bugpac wrote:I originally had mine against the front deck, when i stood up there the transom was 8" above the water, and my 15 wouldn't pick the bow enuff, it just plowed, i moved them back 24" and found the sweet spot, when we modded it i split the difference, 2 against the deck 2 in the rear bench, now i wish i had another 100lbs on the front. With 2 people its close, i just need more hp, with electric only i gain 3/10ths if the rear guy sits on the tackle box right behind me. I thought the batteries were in front on yours you should be pretty good. All my batteries weigh a 100 lbs each, i was debating adding 2 more but likely wont. No more modding to mine, if i get a hair up my bung, ill just build an entire boat. No more length just width

isn't the next step up a 2072?? or for me it would be fiberglass with a 250-300hp on the back

Bugpac · Post by **Bugpac** » 21 Dec 2012, 03:24

Ya fiberglass would be the next best thing, 18/72 build from the ground up would be sweet, i really wanna build a whole boat, dunno that i ever will tho.

russ010 · Post by **russ010** » 27 Dec 2012, 21:53

just got back from Dawson's... man do I have some work ahead of me.

I've got to wire and carpet it - then attach the hinges -- on 12 lids. But this is what I asked for, so I'll complain until it's done!

The lids are just sitting there, they look like the don't fit, but they haven't been hinged or carpeted yet - and the carpet I have is some think stuff. I'm pretty sure it's thicker than 20oz carpet.

These are in no particular order - I just went out and started snapping pictures. It's 35* outside right now, and I think I'll stay by the fire the rest of tonight and figure out how I'm actually going to mount and wire everything.

Open area in the middle - it's pretty close to 4' x 4'

These are HUGE storage compartments. The one closest to the bottom has a waterproof drop in - something I highly recommend. I think I could get in a fetal position and hide in there if I wanted too...

Here's the drop in..

Here's the upper compartment which is open to the floor and the hatch underneath the front deck - underneath the front deck is where I'm going to put a junction block and distribution block for the electronics and other electrical items that will be up in the bow of the boat.

8' rod lockers on each side with 6' lids. Most of my rods are 7-7'6".

inside shot of rod locker

Here is the rear deck storage area - all accessible by hatches exept for about 18" in the middle closest to the bottom of the picture.
All hatches will open towards the gunwale except for the lower right lid. This is where I'm mounting 3 battery chargers, HDS Structure Scan and I dunno what else. this will open into the boat because of the side it will be in and I want to have easy access to just plug up and go.

And the CMC PT-35 hydraulic tilt/trim jack plate