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  1. Pappy

    Looking for this piece and or name

    Good thinking........cannot tell you how many times I have had one fly into never never land.
  2. Pappy

    Looking for this piece and or name

    The widest part of the cones face each other. Lower one big side up and the upper one big side down. This is what keeps the male and female connectors from sliding off and keeps them in the correct location. Do not skimp on these, if you need both get them......lots cheaper than a gear set.
  3. Pappy

    Looking for this piece and or name

    The gearcase and parts are the same but you can look up that model number in the 1997 model year in marine engine if you like to verify. According to your model number you have an electric start 25hp and the EU part tells me it is a1997, not a 1990. See how important it is to identify what we...
  4. Pappy

    1989 Johnson Tracker 25hp electric start

    I believe, on that control box, that you have to sort of grab the whole handle and move it out then advance it to get some throttle at idle. Give it a try and lets continue. BTW - I rode through Arkansas last year coming back from Billings, Montana to Cen. Fla. It was brutally hot! I crossed...
  5. Pappy

    1972 Johnson 25Hp Refurbish

    Not sure but I kind of doubt it. I want as many of the basics covered as possible so we do not have to go back and start over.
  6. Pappy

    Looking for this piece and or name

    First off......when you ask for help on an engine always identify what you are working on. Nobody in here is a mind reader! There is no way to tell what that engine is unless someone like myself can identify it. However................. The black conical piece is called a keeper but that is not...
  7. Pappy

    72 johnson 20hp broke on me need help please....

    You can either look for a forward gear/clutch dog with no wear or look for a complete used gearcase which may also be a gamble. If replacing just the parts you must replace as a pair. The wear is easily enough to allow it to jump out of gear. When it is back together let me know and I can tell...
  8. Pappy

    1972 Johnson 25Hp Refurbish

    No, it is not normal. The choke should fully close and stay closed. To an extent you can loosen the choke solenoid bracket and slide the solenoid back a little to help the blade close and stay closed. Give it a try. BTW - The spring is there to open it again after the solenoid pulls the...
  9. Pappy

    1972 Johnson 25Hp Refurbish

    As far as testing purposes go the primer bulb has nothing to do with starting other than filling the fuel bowl. Nothing. The carburetor has everything to do with fuel distribution past that. Replace it because it is old and you want to but do not expect any change to occur if the old bulb was...
  10. Pappy

    72 johnson 20hp broke on me need help please....

    On the second and third photos I can definitely see wear on the drive lug faces. Secondly you have no clue where to look because you have not looked ....... yet! Very simple. At the base of the shift lever you hold in your hand to shift the engine you will find the adjustment close to the 9...
  11. Pappy

    1972 Johnson 25Hp Refurbish

    Very often I will sit back and read what some of the other seasoned contributors will write. Hoping that we all eventually start with basics and move on from there. Inside the large high speed emulsion tube there is the smaller bent or bowed idle lift tube. It goes from the bottom of the bowl...
  12. Pappy

    While on Vacation...........!

    Here is a comparison between the two designs of the very early folding engines. Front of engine ges.org/][/url] Side shots Rear shots Top of engine Note that front of this engine is at the top of the photo (fuel tank faces forward) And on the second pic (below) the front of the...
  13. Pappy

    While on Vacation...........!

    Thanks Dale ! Lesa and I are pretty proud of this one. Lesa likes the other design better and they are actually a bit smaller due to the design but the condition this one is in is hard to beat. I will put some comparison pics up here to show the two different designs.
  14. Pappy

    While on Vacation...........!

    Most folks know about the later model 3hp engines that folded but yes, you are correct about not many people knowing about the ones from back in this era. May have found another one tonight of the other design. A good friend found one today and called me and sent pics. It has been restored...
  15. Pappy

    While on Vacation...........!

    Not sure how many here appreciate where our love of outboards came from historically. I am probably one of the few who like to go back in time to an earlier but not necessarily more simple time in boating and outboarding. Took ten days and drove from Central Florida up to Tomahawk Wis. for the...
  16. Pappy

    1972 Johnson 25Hp Refurbish

    Okay, the spark needs to be able to jump a static distance of at least 1/4" in order to fire a spark plug under compression. Check that. Secondly, I read that you got it to feed until the spark plugs were wet. Wet with what? Pump some fuel from your fuel line into a clear glass container and...
  17. Pappy

    72 johnson 20hp broke on me need help please....

    There were tons of gearcases out there in the vintage days that did not have the detent groove, balls, and spring. They will stay in gear if everything is adjusted properly and the drive faces of the clutchdog and gear lugs are in good condition and not rounded off. After going through this...
  18. Pappy

    1989 Johnson Tracker 25hp electric start

    I am up in Tomahawk Wisconsin at the moment......will get back on this when I get back at the beginning of next week....
  19. Pappy

    72 johnson 20hp broke on me need help please....

    By chance did you replace an impeller along the way? If so it sounds like you did not get the brass shift rod connector properly re-attached to both the upper and lower shift rods.
  20. Pappy

    Johnson 15 Throttle Interlock Dog

    Okay......well you have been given some steps to take and have not taken them yet to help troubleshoot. Refer to post #4 and start there and report back to us.
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