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Thanks guys for the info. Been under the weather since I 1st posted. I'll do what everyone said and post back when I have strength to get out of bed.

Thanks. U saved me from doing damage then. I'm really rookie at this. I feel and hear the clicks except for neutral. And when I have it in barrel it's definitely running but can't tell if it reversed or still in forward gear. It's driving me nuts

I just got a 94 Evinrude 8 hp. I ran it in the garbage can but I can't tell if it's shifting into nuetural or reverse. I don't think I can use the muffs. Can I spray steady stream of water from the hose where the intake is below the plate to see if it's shifting. Hope I explained it right. Thanks

Also I used the search but couldn't really find a good tutorial on painting the hood and all the lower unit. Maybe I can be pointed to a good thread for it

Thanks everyone. Sorry for incomplete post. It's a Johnson. Not sure of the year or really what hp. It came with the boat but has a horrible paint job on it so I can't see serial and model number. I got them out using the methods from answers

Hi all. New member here. I recently purchased a used motor and I can't get the drain and vent screws off it's been paint over pretty thick what can I do.want to change the oil.