onthewater102
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I don't try to go out of my way to bad mouth products, pretty much ever to this point, but I attempted to clean up a pair of Quantum Smoke reels tonight that disappointed me so much I thought I was doing others a disservice by not sharing what I found.
These reels originally retailed for $200 and offered such selling points as full aluminum frame and side plates, machined aluminum spool, aluminum main drive gears and however many bearings they cram into these things, 12 if I'm not mistaken. The exact count is irrelevant, as these things are nothing more than paper weights after no more than one season's worth of use.
I will start by saying I have an older Quantum Energy PT that has served me faithfully for 9 years now, receiving a thorough cleaning and re- lubrication during each off season. It was with that reel in mind that I thought these would be excellent. I couldn't have been more wrong.
Lets start with the exterior, as that's what everyone sees first:
Some serious finish quality issues going on after so short a period of ownership.
Perhaps that was something unique to this reel, the other one isn't missing huge swaths of finish, so were that the extent of the problems I could let it go. But we're just getting started. The reel presented with very rough winding and especially rough casting characteristics. Upon inspection the spool bearings were in frightful condition, so I recommended replacement of all three...ABEC 7 orange seal bearings in place helped considerably with the casting, but the retrieval was still rough.
Pulled the reel apart and was aghast at what I found inside. For starters, it was filthier than reels I'd seen which were used by tournament guys and worked to the bone. A quick look over the reel and we see design flaw #1...hole in the lubrication port cover.
Upon further inspection there was corrosion evident on the main drive gear, and many of the gear teeth had been worn down, likely the cause of the rough retrieval.
Looking closer still we see damage to the teeth themselves. This was surprising given the fact that the brass pinion gear wasn't worn at all. They clearly used an inferior grade of aluminum for this gear.
Clearly these two weren't the only ones with this issue, 2 years out the gear sets in both the high and slow speed variants are totally sold out with Quantum per their website.
Oddly enough, even though the aluminum main drive gear is fouled up and damaged the aluminum (different alloy clearly from the color) main reel crankshaft is blemish free and looks as expected, apart from the ever present filth that somehow infiltrated this reel.
The same could not be said for the anti-reverse bearing. The inner ring had obvious exterior corrosion.
The retainer of the anti-reverse bearing has its own corrosion issues, with rust visible from the inside of the reel. Straight orange rust - clearly this part isn't stainless steel.
You'd think that corrosion and related issues would be enough but not for this thing. Check out the condition of the inside of the drag star...see how off center the casting for where this threads onto the crankshaft is? Terrible quality control.
So, for $200 you get susceptibility to corrosion when used in a freshwater environment, inferior main gears that the company doesn't have any replacements of left in stock, and a lousy bond between the finish and the oxidizing aluminum underneath. All the while there are a total of three points where outside dirt and grime can enter the gear case (through the sides of the unprotected thumb-bar, down the opening for the pinion gear and through the idiotic hole at the center of the lubrication port cap.)
Long story short, save your money on these things until such time as they release an apology for peddling this garbage and acknowledge what a heap of profit-making trash this reel really was.
These reels originally retailed for $200 and offered such selling points as full aluminum frame and side plates, machined aluminum spool, aluminum main drive gears and however many bearings they cram into these things, 12 if I'm not mistaken. The exact count is irrelevant, as these things are nothing more than paper weights after no more than one season's worth of use.
I will start by saying I have an older Quantum Energy PT that has served me faithfully for 9 years now, receiving a thorough cleaning and re- lubrication during each off season. It was with that reel in mind that I thought these would be excellent. I couldn't have been more wrong.
Lets start with the exterior, as that's what everyone sees first:

Some serious finish quality issues going on after so short a period of ownership.
Perhaps that was something unique to this reel, the other one isn't missing huge swaths of finish, so were that the extent of the problems I could let it go. But we're just getting started. The reel presented with very rough winding and especially rough casting characteristics. Upon inspection the spool bearings were in frightful condition, so I recommended replacement of all three...ABEC 7 orange seal bearings in place helped considerably with the casting, but the retrieval was still rough.
Pulled the reel apart and was aghast at what I found inside. For starters, it was filthier than reels I'd seen which were used by tournament guys and worked to the bone. A quick look over the reel and we see design flaw #1...hole in the lubrication port cover.

Upon further inspection there was corrosion evident on the main drive gear, and many of the gear teeth had been worn down, likely the cause of the rough retrieval.

Looking closer still we see damage to the teeth themselves. This was surprising given the fact that the brass pinion gear wasn't worn at all. They clearly used an inferior grade of aluminum for this gear.

Clearly these two weren't the only ones with this issue, 2 years out the gear sets in both the high and slow speed variants are totally sold out with Quantum per their website.

Oddly enough, even though the aluminum main drive gear is fouled up and damaged the aluminum (different alloy clearly from the color) main reel crankshaft is blemish free and looks as expected, apart from the ever present filth that somehow infiltrated this reel.

The same could not be said for the anti-reverse bearing. The inner ring had obvious exterior corrosion.

The retainer of the anti-reverse bearing has its own corrosion issues, with rust visible from the inside of the reel. Straight orange rust - clearly this part isn't stainless steel.

You'd think that corrosion and related issues would be enough but not for this thing. Check out the condition of the inside of the drag star...see how off center the casting for where this threads onto the crankshaft is? Terrible quality control.

So, for $200 you get susceptibility to corrosion when used in a freshwater environment, inferior main gears that the company doesn't have any replacements of left in stock, and a lousy bond between the finish and the oxidizing aluminum underneath. All the while there are a total of three points where outside dirt and grime can enter the gear case (through the sides of the unprotected thumb-bar, down the opening for the pinion gear and through the idiotic hole at the center of the lubrication port cap.)
Long story short, save your money on these things until such time as they release an apology for peddling this garbage and acknowledge what a heap of profit-making trash this reel really was.