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[jcb]

This is tin boat that I customized,Extended front deck out of treated ply.Alunimum flooring screwed down with self tappers,trolling motor mount I make for use with transome trolling motor,50 pound Minn Kota.I fish smallmouths in the river.Four rod holders for drop back fishing with plugs for salmon and steelheads.Stainless steel anchor tower for use of chain anchor,this goes on the bow once I take the Minn kota off there.Buildup of the transome so jet motor can be used proper in skinny water.I have good friend add the tiller handle to motor and I use side controll for electric starting and for gear shifting,this work out very nice.Have combo startup battery,trolling motor battery under front deck to make weight distrabution about right.Now only thing needed is non-slip floor coating on front deck and floor and locator added to the front.I also add oar locks and set of oars for steelhead fishing,this makes a grate drift boat.

She will run in about 3 inch of water on plane.

I need some ides on non slip flooring coating for cheap,no carpet

 

[Nevillizer]

Pressure treated plywood is not a good idea for used in an aluminum boat, as you will learn from the many posts on here. The wood will cause a severe corrosion problem and will pit the aluminum that it comes in contact with. Your better off using regular plywood. You'll want to water proof it prior to installation with your choice of sealer like thompsoms, behr deck sealer, etc.

 

[jcb]

I dont no who told you that?That is not the case at all and have been useing treated ply for years in boats I fix up for fishing.Front deck extention has been in this boat for three years now and i removed it last week when I install the alimimum flooring and the alimimum under it is in as new condition.They maybe talking about something else?Who know?

Anyone have good cheap ideas about non-slip coating for the floor and front deck?I been thinking about truck liner of some sort but I am wanting a light gray as black gets to hot when in the sun.I was in hopes there was a non slip paint out there or maybe rubber coatings?Please help with ideas about this.I know this boat is all fix up now but I waswanting to show her off.I just join up at riversmallies.com two weeks ago and they are now gone off line.Someone there tell me about this place before they went.

Anyways thanks for any help given about the flooring

 

[Nevillizer]

"I dont no who told you that?That is not the case at all and have been useing treated ply for years in boats I fix up for fishing.Front deck extention has been in this boat for three years now and i removed it last week when I install the alimimum flooring and the alimimum under it is in as new condition.They maybe talking about something else?Who know?"

I'm not sure what type of treated plywood you are using, but most are treated with copper, arsenic, formaldehyde and a host of other compounds. These compounds leach out of the wood and cause galvanic corrosion which results in pitting in the aluminum. This leaching process of those chemicals is why it is prohibited to use it for interior home construction.

That being said, I'm sure out there some where there is a treated plywood that may not cause pitting and corrosion problems, be ask a few people on here, or better just use the search feature at the top right and you will find that most stay aways from it and use and exterior grade plywood that they in turn weather proof.

Attached you find a picture of the pitting that is most commonly found when using pressure treated (also known as womanized plywood) is in direct contact with aluminum over time. Not trying to be a know it all, just don't want to see some one make the same mistake so many of us and had to learn from the hard way.

 

[Nevillizer]

Anyone have good cheap ideas about non-slip coating for the floor and front deck?
A lot of the guys have had good use with the spray or roll on bed liners. I recently used some spray in texture paint that gives it a rock like finish. Also, rubber mats sold home depot fairly inexpensive. Here is a picture of the texture stuff I used Don't know how sturdy it will be under heavy traffic. I'll let you know how it turns out. Good luck with your mod.

 

[jcb]

That looks nice and thats what i want.

 

[ihavenoideawhattoput]

I dont no who told you that?That is not the case at all and have been useing treated ply for years in boats I fix up for fishing.Front deck extention has been in this boat for three years now and i removed it last week when I install the alimimum flooring and the alimimum under it is in as new condition.They maybe talking about something else?Who know?

Anyone have good cheap ideas about non-slip coating for the floor and front deck?I been thinking about truck liner of some sort but I am wanting a light gray as black gets to hot when in the sun.I was in hopes there was a non slip paint out there or maybe rubber coatings?Please help with ideas about this.I know this boat is all fix up now but I waswanting to show her off.I just join up at riversmallies.com two weeks ago and they are now gone off line.Someone there tell me about this place before they went.

Anyways thanks for any help given about the flooring

The corrosion is caused by the high Copper content in the new pressure treated lumber. I also thought people where crazy who told me this until I did a little research on my own. After some quick research I learned more than I ever wanted to know and what finally sealed the deal and made me a believer was the fact that since the change in lumber and the way it is treated building codes have changed to include no aluminum coated or uncoated is to be in contact with Pressure Treated Lumber. Almost all aluminum products now have warnings on the boxes that suggest it not be placed in direct contact with pressure treated wood. (ACQ) Corrosion will eventually take place between the aluminum and copper. It will be accelerated by any moisture (wet PT wood, condensation such as dew or frost, or water infiltration) that gets behind the metal cladding.

Read this: Pressure Treated Wood: The Next Generation https://www.finehomebuilding.com/PDF/Free/021160082.pdf

 

[ihavenoideawhattoput]

Nice boat, for floor covering we are going to epoxy our new boat, ripped out all the carpet. We are then going to tape off the edges place another coating on it with non-skid in the mix. This will allow us to just spray the boat out.

 

[jcb]

I take Minn kota off the front and install the stainless chain anchor tower,it takes only two stainless steel bolts to hold her in place.salmon and steelheads are on the way so i get ready.It take a good amount of chain to hold in the river heavy current.I take another picture of here with the rod holders in place along with the oars and the front seat i use when drit boat fishing the river.Many big salmon and steelheads have come in this boat.Maybe I even take picture of her in the water =D>

you can allso see the trolling motor bracket I make for the Minn kota,very simple,strong,useable and light for use with transome mount trolling motor :mrgreen:

 

[moloch16]

How did you make the trolling motor mount? I need something similar.

 

[Ranchero50]

No seats?

Surprised you didn't go ahead and get a stick steer setup to get your weght out of the back of the boat.

Does the 20jet plane the boat out? Read on a lot of places that they were just about worthless unless you were just tooling along as a displacement hull vs. a planing hull. All they could do was put the nose in the air and not push the hull outof the water to plane.

Be sure to keep a very sharp knife handy for that anchor chain setup. [-X In fact I'd keep one tied to the bow so when that chain grabs and the bows going under you might be able to cut it away before you swamp out...

Jamie

 

[jcb]

No seats?

Surprised you didn't go ahead and get a stick steer setup to get your weght out of the back of the boat.

Does the 20jet plane the boat out? Read on a lot of places that they were just about worthless unless you were just tooling along as a displacement hull vs. a planing hull. All they could do was put the nose in the air and not push the hull outof the water to plane.

Be sure to keep a very sharp knife handy for that anchor chain setup. [-X In fact I'd keep one tied to the bow so when that chain grabs and the bows going under you might be able to cut it away before you swamp out...

Jamie

Here is post i make on another topic and I am hopeing this will splain things out alittle better.

https://www.tinboats.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=15685


Mercury 20 jet= a Mercury 25hp power head and inturn makes 20hp at the jet.20hp plane out jon boats of this size with no problem.Hands on experiance is much more important that the things you just read about on the web.Mercury 20 hp jet on simalar boat loaded down with ply wood flooring,livewells,two batteryand other added weight will suffer.small boats like this on with the 20hp jet run good if the setup man and user uses his head rather than just playing with his tool at the time




Chain anchor is always in place on the tower when running from hole to hole.I have a cleat i tie the rope on and when fishing and the anchor is in need of adjustment I have a Clam Cleat there for that.Maybe I take picture of this for those thats never heard of Clam Cleat.Most river boats in this area has simalar setups either manual or power driven by battery.

 

[RiverBottomOutdoors]

Interesting anchor setup.

 

[Howard]

I dont no who told you that?That is not the case at all and have been useing treated ply for years in boats I fix up for fishing.Front deck extention has been in this boat for three years now and i removed it last week when I install the alimimum flooring and the alimimum under it is in as new condition.They maybe talking about something else?Who know?

This could be true, remember that the EPA banned the use of copper arsenate in 2004 which was not harmful to aluminum. Since 2005 they now use alkaline copper quat in most pressure treated lumber which if harmful to aluminum. I have seen it eat flashing off homes when aluminum flashing was used for decks. Aluminum deck furniture has been known to get galvanic corrosion from certain PT lumber after 2004. You might be using it but it comes at a risk. Good luck with your mod, coming along very nice.

 

[jcb]

I never relize these things about treated ply and alimimum and the effects of it.I been doing this for some time and has not noticed anything.I has been thinking about replacement of the treated ply with heavyer alimimum of some sort.I see there are some that use road signs for such work.I could replace the deck extention with couple of road sign and then the treated ply would be gone.I only has a piece of the treated ply that measures out at 16 inch by 52 inch and thats is all.Should be a no brainer.I could use a do not pass sign on one side and a pass with care sign on the other :mrgreen:
Now i need to do some thinking about the proper fraime work such a deck extention. =D>
nice thing i like about no carpet in the boat is easy cleanup,pull the plug and hose her down :mrgreen:

 

[cavman138]

Where are you from jcb?

 

[jcb]

Where are you from jcb?

I fron Michigan USA.
You?
I been here for some time but have been in other places to. :mrgreen:

 

[jcb]

Any of you ever here of Skid no More?Its a coating for non skid floor and it has ground up rubber in it.I find it on the puter today.They say it is light gray and that is what im wanting for her.Wht you say and think?

 

[lucescoflathead]

I bought a roll of diamond plate rubber matting Light grey in color to use on the floor. What year is that jet? A couple places I fish are restricted to 20 hp or less. Thant motor would be a great set up for my boat.

 

[jcb]

That motor right there is in the 90s from what they say.All I know it not have alot of use.You no how to tell the exzact year of it?Maybe by cerial number or something?
She is a 2 stroke and i like that as the weight is lesser than 4 stroke.Next New boat i get will be a 1752 with 40 inch front deck all open to the rear bench that will have to be 16 or 17 inch with livewell in that and she will be powered by a new Mercury 60/40 jet with tiller handle =D> tHAT ONE RITE THERE IS A 4 STROKER WITH 40HP AT THE PUMP :lol: I BEN THINLKING OF SELLING OFF ME GLITTER BOAT AND THIS JET FOR THE NEW LARGER RIVER JET :mrgreen: wHAT YOU ALL THINK OF THAT?SHE WOOD HAVE ALL ALUMIMUM FLOOR AND DECK,NO WOOD AND NO CARPET.I WOOD HAVE ONE OF THE CUSTOM BUILDERS LIKE BLAZER SPORT,WELDBILT,LEDGER CRAFT OR ALWELD MAKE ME THE HULL,I THEN PUT ALL THE GOODIES ONTO HER.WHAT YOU THINK?