Curly Alumacraft F 50’s ? Older?

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Huge smile from Melissa down here in SW Fl on SPLASH day! Looks sweet on the water! Thank you for sharing I may never have found that on here.
Wondering if that light on your bow is what was on this bow hood way back? There are so many holes there. I have been stewing on what to put there to cover the holes.

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Thanks Melissa. That bow light is a reproduction Perko light that matched what was on the boat when it was original. The boat came with the original fixture but it was pretty far gone. I found this one on eBay as new old stock. The jet style cleat was also found as NOS online.
 
Years ago I played around with using the motor from an electric EZ Go golf cart but it was long before the days of Li-Ion batteries.
I took the lower from a 60hp twin combined with the cover from a 70hp.
Using the same batteries that were in the working golf cart I simply made a direct drive to the driveshaft but made up an upper bearing to support the modified drive shaft. It worked okay, but would not plane a 15ft glass run about and the battery life was fair at best. It was fine for a lake with no current but if it got into any opposing current the batteries went down fast. The donor cart was from around 1996, so it was new enough to have pulse control and a controller but it lacked power. The biggest improvement we made was to increase all the battery cable sizes and to run with no cover to keep things cool but it was far from a viable boat to use.
I did a smaller set up using a large bow thruster motor, one that ran off 36v, mounted to what was basically a a home made trolling motor but with a speed controller that a buddy built to run the motor. It did as good as the 48v cart motor but still would not plane the boat. (In comparison, a 50hp gas motor on that boat was more than it needed to get on plane, and an old 115 Tower of power Merc was insanity.

I gave the second motor to an old guy with a 12ft Feathercraft who used it for fishing. I think I sold the cart motor but have thought about maybe using a larger motor from a car to power a small inboard set up to eliminate the loss of efficiency through the lower unit.

The rig in the video is impressive but the noise is also a concern. Something I considered is to use a belt drive to reduce the motor load at the top of the motor and trying it again in a smaller or lighter boat.


I had a 14ft Sears boat that looked a lot like that Alumicraft, it was a lot rougher but with a ton of sealer I made it work with an old 5.5hp back in the 70's. I think it fell off a trailer at some point because one whole corner was missing and patched with rivets, sheetmetal, and a gallon of tar. I didn't care as long as it would float then. two old bleach bottles cut into scoops served as the much needed bilge pump. I'm not sure what ever happened to it, I moved away from home back then and it was gone when I came back 18 years later. I think it got given away after sitting half sunk down by an old farm pond we used it on.

With an old pitted aluminum boat, Gluvit is your best friend. Just be sure to paint over it afterwards since it can't take direct sunlight. I'd sand and identify any pitting that needs more serious attention, bang any loose rivets tight, and chemically clean the hull of corrosion and let it dry. Fill any bigger pits with JB Weld, then sand and treat it like body filler. I'd sand the outer hull with 220 grit, wire brush around the rivets, then coat the interior with Gluvit, then pant the outer hull with zinc chromate, and then your color coat, and I'd paint the inside of the hull with something like Awlgrip or similar to further seal any potential leaks.
(Truck bed liner can also work for interior paint and its super durable but if your adding a full floor, anything more than just a heavy coat of enamel over the Gluvit would be a waste of money. I painted the interior of my current boat with spatter paint, the stuff meant for car trunks. its super abrasion resistant and looks like what the factory used).

Plywood is the best material for the transom, its far stronger than solid wood and when laminated in layers with epoxy it can last a lifetime. On a boat that size, any good exterior grade plywood will work fine, just do not use pressure treated or marine plywood, they are both treated with cupric sulfate which will cause severe corrosion issues.
The last transom I made was done with four layers of 3/8" BCX plywood. I cut and laid in a layer of fiberglass in between each layer of plywood and coated the whole thing in epoxy. I then bedded the panel into the hull with heavy coat of bed liner to seal out any water and all through holes were drilled oversize with aluminum reinforcement tubes and washers bedded into the panel with epoxy. It was severe overkill but it was going to be a forever boat. Or so I thought, until I found the next one, and the next one and so on. When I sold it, someone got a hull that was built to outlast five generations. I did the same thing for the deck and the seat tops, all done with epoxy and held in place with stainless screws and finished in a soft bed liner paint to match the hull. The outer motor plate was made from 3/8" plywood with a teak veneer also epoxy coated and pre-drilled for motor mount studs for the Johnson 35hp I hung on it. Part of the reason I sold it was that I had originally set out to just fix the boat up to use to test motors out on, but it went way beyond that and rarely got used because of it.

Very good on the motor builds you've done. This one is indeed a bit loud but was a proof of concept build my friend did about ten years ago. He has since built a truly incredible 96v motor that has a top speed of around 28 and can run at 18mph for an hour. Here's the web page of his build. A really fun boat to be on. https://www.electricrunaboutconversions.com/
 
Very good on the motor builds you've done. This one is indeed a bit loud but was a proof of concept build my friend did about ten years ago. He has since built a truly incredible 96v motor that has a top speed of around 28 and can run at 18mph for an hour. Here's the web page of his build. A really fun boat to be on. https://www.electricrunaboutconversions.com/
Wow. I am on my 3rd reading of your message and may need to print it and take it section by section. I am startled by the layers of ply and epoxy followed by drilled out holes w aluminum’s and epoxy! And bed liner paint, why not? I can only imagine your proceeding boats.

At the end of the day I am a girl and want “pretty” (along with smart and effective). The reason I bought the Wet Edge Total Boat paint was I could get a lovely aqua color like the shrimp boats in south Alabama…

Lastly, pound in the rivets? I assume that means someone has to be under/ over at the same time? I will look that up. I am amazed they aren’t worse actually.

You have opened up a whole new course of action. Funny, my brother who works on boats,
larger boats salt water…. Brought me over a piece of transom wood. It is so pressure treated it is green. Won’t be touching that now. Plus I want a pretty piece so now I will seek out teak veneer.. maybe.

Thank you!
 

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I think that's a lot smaller and lighter boat than what boatyard had a in mind but he's very right about the pressure treated wood. It'll eat the aluminum fast. Its not just corrosive to aluminum, it'll eat just about all metals and it does it faster in saltwater.

My first boat as a kid was a hull like that but mine was branded as Sears. It had a single piece of 3/4" plywood on the inside and a piece of 3/4" on the outside, then it had a cast piece of metal where the motor clamps contacted the wood inside. I replaced the wood with new exterior cabinet grade plywood epoxied over and left to dry for a week or two before putting it back together. (I stained it first to make it look like Teak but ended up painting it gray after the sun started to weather the epoxy).

Where the motor mounted I counter sunk a piece of aluminum so the motor clamps didn't mar up the new wood.
I cut a piece out an old road sign for that I cut it to span about 10" wide and low enough to make sure the clamps made contact in the middle of the plate. I bent over each corner of the plate and bedded it into the wood with a clamp so it couldn't move. I used a bit of contact adhesive on the back of it. I wanted it to be replaceable if needed. I made the whole panel taller than it had been from the factory because I had a bad habit then if overpowering my boats. It ended up with a 40hp on the back for a while but I got tired of no one having the nerve to ride with me in it.
The goal is to end up at 1 3/4" or just a bit more in total thickness.

By the look of that hull its likely not rated for more than 20hp, maybe less but at 14ft a 9.9hp would do just fine. My final motor on mine was a 20hp West Bend.

Those boats were sort of the jet skis of their day.
 
Thank you.
Question: would you prime with Zinc Chromate?
What did you use? And do you think I have sanded enough?
I am so happy to get replies to my post. Thank you.
I used paint stripper and fine sand paper to get the boat bare. Then I etched it all with vinegar and sealed all the seams. Then I painted all the bare aluminum surfaces inside & out with Total Boat Aluminum Topside white paint. Ironically, this is the paint that remained exposed below the waterline, which is fine if you trailer the boat. Otherwise, you might want use aluminum anti-fouling paint if you’re going to keep the boat in the water. Above the waterline on the exterior & interior I used Total Boat Wet Edge sea foam paint. And finally, I used Total Boat Total Tread (anti-skid) paint on the interior floor. I’m into my third year since painting and it’s held up well… here are some pics:
 

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Age wise, its hard to tell but in 59 I believe the HP rating went from 18 to 20hp. If you call Alumacraft they will tell you if you have the original HIN.

There used to be a contact page on their website.

I do believe they differed a bit in the first years, here's a pic of one that was on CL about 10 years ago on a lake in NJ it was advertised as a 1946 model.

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I had saved the pick because I had a Model A around that time, which was their lighter model.
On mine, the hull ID was stamped into one of the transom braces between the bottom of the boat and the wood panel.
 
Age wise, its hard to tell but in 59 I believe the HP rating went from 18 to 20hp. If you call Alumacraft they will tell you if you have the original HIN.

There used to be a contact page on their website.

I do believe they differed a bit in the first years, here's a pic of one that was on CL about 10 years ago on a lake in NJ it was advertised as a 1946 model.

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I had saved the pick because I had a Model A around that time, which was their lighter model.
On mine, the hull ID was stamped into one of the transom braces between the bottom of the boat and the wood panel.
Look at the wheel way back there compared to mine! Very similar though. And the ID is stamped clearly in the back inside. Thank you
 
I used paint stripper and fine sand paper to get the boat bare. Then I etched it all with vinegar and sealed all the seams. Then I painted all the bare aluminum surfaces inside & out with Total Boat Aluminum Topside white paint. Ironically, this is the paint that remained exposed below the waterline, which is fine if you trailer the boat. Otherwise, you might want use aluminum anti-fouling paint if you’re going to keep the boat in the water. Above the waterline on the exterior & interior I used Total Boat Wet Edge sea foam paint. And finally, I used Total Boat Total Tread (anti-skid) paint on the interior floor. I’m into my third year since painting and it’s held up well… here are some pics:
Well isn’t she nice! Thank you for the info and sharing pictures.
What did you seal the seams with? Cool that you used vinegar.
 
I think that's a lot smaller and lighter boat than what boatyard had a in mind but he's very right about the pressure treated wood. It'll eat the aluminum fast. Its not just corrosive to aluminum, it'll eat just about all metals and it does it faster in saltwater.

My first boat as a kid was a hull like that but mine was branded as Sears. It had a single piece of 3/4" plywood on the inside and a piece of 3/4" on the outside, then it had a cast piece of metal where the motor clamps contacted the wood inside. I replaced the wood with new exterior cabinet grade plywood epoxied over and left to dry for a week or two before putting it back together. (I stained it first to make it look like Teak but ended up painting it gray after the sun started to weather the epoxy).

Where the motor mounted I counter sunk a piece of aluminum so the motor clamps didn't mar up the new wood.
I cut a piece out an old road sign for that I cut it to span about 10" wide and low enough to make sure the clamps made contact in the middle of the plate. I bent over each corner of the plate and bedded it into the wood with a clamp so it couldn't move. I used a bit of contact adhesive on the back of it. I wanted it to be replaceable if needed. I made the whole panel taller than it had been from the factory because I had a bad habit then if overpowering my boats. It ended up with a 40hp on the back for a while but I got tired of no one having the nerve to ride with me in it.
The goal is to end up at 1 3/4" or just a bit more in total thickness.

By the look of that hull its likely not rated for more than 20hp, maybe less but at 14ft a 9.9hp would do just fine. My final motor on mine was a 20hp West Bend.

Those boats were sort of the jet skis of their day.
Hi loosescrew. It does say rated for 20 hp. That’s what is have. Not vintage though.
 
Hi loosescrew. It does say rated for 20 hp. That’s what is have. Not vintage though.
Hi loosescrew. It does say rated for 20 hp. That’s what is have. Not vintage though.
Anyway…. Don’t know why stuff repeats like that. This whole wood aspect of my project is making me crazy. I finally headed off yesterday to Lowe’s to get wood after researching copiously on here and other places. My intention was to get exterior grade plywood to use for A) the outter transom piece and B) floor boards to seal, fill and paint and then have them as a removable floor with that marine mat that looks like wood on top.
 
Anyway…. Don’t know why stuff repeats like that. This whole wood aspect of my project is making me crazy. I finally headed off yesterday to Lowe’s to get wood after researching copiously on here and other places. My intention was to get exterior grade plywood to use for A) the outter transom piece and B) floor boards to seal, fill and paint and then have them as a removable floor with that marine mat that looks like wood on top.
Continuing…I get to Lowe’s and over wanders the Lowe’s lumber dude to help. He had no idea all the thought I had in my choice. My husband was with me and wants very little to do with anything boat or water related….so it did not take long for sales dude to convince husband that we needed to get to a boat yard somewhere and get marine ply. I whipped out my phone and showed my recent interactions with you guys about corrosion and aluminum … now another Lowes dude wanders over to get involved. So now there are three men telling me I am making a mistake and that the plywood wouldn’t last 4 months… I got so frustrated. We left. I will go back alone and not engage with Lowe’s wood guy on this particular project.
So your message above is perfect timing. I even get the rd sign piece counter sunk for strength.
Super interesting how you approached it. Thank you. I hope I don’t sound too whiny.
 
After seeing how rusty that trailer is, I'd be inclined to look around for something better rather than just trying to patch it up. While anything can be fixed, sometimes the right answer is just to replace it. A non-galvanized trailer in FL isn't the best idea. tubing like that with no protection against saltwater is worse.
It was fine in MI but FL water is higher in salt than most other areas and unless your never leaving some small local pond, I'd likely not throw good money after bad and start looking for a good used galvanized trailer.

You don't have to paint that boat, aluminum does a very good job of protecting itself.
It certainly looks good enough to polish as it is. I'd probably paint the transom, the bow deck and the interior then buff the outside up to a nice shine and give it a coat of Sharkhide like they do on pontoon boat hulls.

For the wood, I'd probably go to a lumber yard and ask for their best outdoor rated plywood that IS NOT pressure treated.
You can stain and clear coat it to look like anything you wish before you coat it in epoxy.
I'd cut, test fit, drill all the holes and then remove it again to both sand and make it look good.
Then be sure to coat every last exposed edge of the wood with epoxy to seal out water. Seal the bolt heads to the transom with 3M 4200 urethane sealer on final assembly once the transom panel has been sealed and painted.

Keep in mind that the wood panels are where the strength lies in the transom. With a 20hp motor, it will need to be at least as strong as it was when new. Use stainless hardware, large washers where the bolts contact the wood and make all the holes as exact as possible.

I like to build the transom with the thought that its getting double the horsepower that it'll ever see and build it to last a lifetime.
 
The problem with rusty tube type trailers is that they never protect the inside of the tubes very well and once they start to rust you never know how bad it is till it just gives out and brakes in half. The only fix for one like that is either use the old trailer as a pattern and build a brand new one just like it, or find a cheap newer trailer somewhere. Any repairs you make to rust are just band aids and we all know how well band aids work when wet.
Take a drive around to the local marinas, chances are they have something better laying around that's an easier or more permanent fix. Or just buy a new one. Some times I find jetski trailers for cheap and all it takes to make one of those work is a longer tongue.

Everyone here is on the right track about the transom fix.

There are two ways to look at it though. One is to go the overkill route.
The other is to just cut two pieces of 3/4" exterior plywood, get some new SS bolts and hit the water. Even with nothing but new wood and some epoxy over the pitting and some paint it'll likely last another 25 or so years at least.

The corrosion on that Alumacraft looks like Galvanic corrosion more than chemical corrosion. To be safe, I'd neutralize the area with baking soda and water, sand, fill with JB Weld and paint it with Zinc Chromate followed by a thick paint that will insulate the metal from anything in the new wood and do all you can to insulate the bolts too.
Slightly oversized holes, filled with sealer and huge washers works well.
 
Hello, as of today I really see that the trailer is, as you have written, too far gone. I laid under and can see too much corrosion to fix☹️. I started to look on marketplace and Craig’s list. There was a good affordable option. They only posted one photo straight on. By the time I asked for the length it was sold.

Pressure washed inside and got off a lot of old nonskid looking paint.

Thank you for the suggestions. Oh, found title today. Says 1959 and 14 ft. IMG_5914.jpegIMG_5911.jpeg
 
That trailer is done, your lucky it made it home.
Newer trailers are easier to launch and load with anyway. Even if that old trailer was good you'd have soon learned to hate dealing with it.

I picked up this one a few months ago off CL for free It was under a junk fiberglass boat down in DE. I slid the boat off the trailer on the lawn and advertised it as a planter for $300 in one ad and as a boat in another ad on CL I got 30 emails for the 'boat planter' and it was gone the next afternoon for $200 cash. It never got a single reply to the ad under boats.

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Either way its a rust free trailer for less than free now It needs a few rollers and a heavier bow stop to do what I want it to do, and likely a new light kit and it'll be good to go.
What concerns me the most is that no one saw that boat and trailer and bothered to grab it. It was listed under FREE BOAT in the free section the boat had NM numbers on it and no papers, the trailer had a MD title. Its long enough for a 16ft boat but the added tongue length is nice for the 14ft boat going on it.
 

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