New live sonar that doesn't reqired a FF

wmk0002 · Sep 16, 2024

Yeah, not something I would personally be interested in, however, I'm all for more competition in the industry as it helps keeps things innovative and competition helps keeps prices relatively lower (yeah I know all this stuff is a still $$$ lol).

LDUBS · Sep 16, 2024

InSaneFisherMan said:
Taiwan is the Republic of China, Mainland China is the Peoples Republic of China.

Thanks - zoomed right by me.

Still Afloat · Sep 16, 2024

LDUBS said:
I bet HB's R&D team is working on a similar concept as we speak.

If I have an iPad with the App, I wonder if I could steal the signal from the other boats around me.

And all for only a bazzilion dollars plus all the options.

Ray Clark · Sep 17, 2024

LDUBS said:
I also think Garmin's are made in Taiwan. As far as I know my Hummingbird is still made in Alabama.

Your comment made me go look.

According to Johnson Outdoors' web site, H-birds are still "designed, engineered, manufactured, and maintained in Eufala, Alabama." The only model series "outsourced" is the Piranha series. Of course, they could be importing certain parts, like circuit boards, from offshore suppliers. I'd be surprised if they didn't.

Johnson Outdoors' web site also says that Minn Kota trolling motors are also US-made.

airshot · Sep 18, 2024

Before retiring, I worked for a couple companies that used Taiwan for some of their production. Quality control was very good as they allowed inspectors into their country to check quality before parts left the country. China itself produces faster but less quality control and your only inspection is when their products come into the US. Taiwan has a much higher approval/ quality control, than China themselves. The quality control folks always spoke highly about Taiwan quality. I have a side x side UTV made in Taiwan and the quality has been excellent, even after 10 years.

MrGiggles · Sep 20, 2024

airshot said:
Before retiring, I worked for a couple companies that used Taiwan for some of their production. Quality control was very good as they allowed inspectors into their country to check quality before parts left the country. China itself produces faster but less quality control and your only inspection is when their products come into the US. Taiwan has a much higher approval/ quality control, than China themselves. The quality control folks always spoke highly about Taiwan quality. I have a side x side UTV made in Taiwan and the quality has been excellent, even after 10 years.

In terms of hand tools, Taiwan is excellent, China can be a coin toss.

I used to be a big fan of Gearwrench until they started sourcing everything from China. Been buying from Tekton ever since.

Still Afloat · Sep 21, 2024

I think we taught the electronics industry to China quite well. The junky stuff is the low tech. I bought some welding clamps last winter that were supposed to hold two piece parts square to each other. Unfortunately the four clamps varied from 92 to 95 degrees. At least Amazon is good about returns in most cases.

InSaneFisherMan · Sep 21, 2024

Still Afloat said:
I think we taught the electronics industry to China quite well. The junky stuff is the low tech.

I remember saying similar statements about Japan, when I was younger.

Poor quality is poor quality no matter where it's made.

I am just not a fan of funding adversaries, but not going to get political.

Still Afloat · Sep 21, 2024

InSaneFisherMan said:
I remember saying similar statements about Japan, when I was younger.

Poor quality is poor quality no matter where it's made.

I am just not a fan of funding adversaries, but not going to get political.

It would be very difficult to buy anything electronic that doesn’t have components that are mostly sourced from APAC. Could you imagine what a smart phone would cost if it were built in the US?

I have a hard time believing the Humminbirds are manufactured in the US. Maybe final assembly and testing but, I don’t know this as a fact.

LDUBS · Sep 21, 2024

Still Afloat said:
It would be very difficult to buy anything electronic that doesn’t have components that are mostly sourced from APAC. Could you imagine what a smart phone would cost if it were built in the US?

I have a hard time believing the Humminbirds are manufactured in the US. Maybe final assembly and testing but, I don’t know this as a fact.

I wonder if any company is manufacturing 100% of the components that are part of the final product.

I wonder if Humminbird gives factory tours. I would do that if I were to find myself in Eufaula. All I know is if they need someone on the west coast to do some product testing, I'm available.

BTW, I read that profit margins on iPhones are in the 45% - 60% range. Helps explain Apple's growth.

Still Afloat · Sep 23, 2024

LDUBS said:
I wonder if any company is manufacturing 100% of the components that are part of the final product.

I wonder if Humminbird gives factory tours. I would do that if I were to find myself in Eufaula. All I know is if they need someone on the west coast to do some product testing, I'm available.

BTW, I read that profit margins on iPhones are in the 45% - 60% range. Helps explain Apple's growth.

I wonder if any company is manufacturing 100% of the components that are part of the final product.
- It really isn’t feasible for high tech.

LDUBS · Sep 23, 2024

Still Afloat said:
I wonder if any company is manufacturing 100% of the components that are part of the final product.
- It really isn’t feasible for high tech.

I agree. Probably same for most products with multiple parts.

lightflyer1 · Sep 24, 2024

More and more IC's are being produced in global foundries instead of company owned fabs. The fabs are getting too expensive for single companies to own and run them.

newriverrat · Sep 24, 2024

I've been waiting--for this. Got a older helix that wont do ffs (does everything else) so why havn't the main fishfinder manufacturers produced this. It would sell like hotcakes, you wouldn't have to buy all new systems and parts. Ohhh... a scheme to sell you everything that you already have?

InSaneFisherMan · Sep 24, 2024

From Accuphy:

Here's some information about our sonar products:

1. What is the price?

The pricing information will be announced in October, 2024.

2. When will the product be available?

The products will be launched in November, 2024. We are in discussions with distributors in various regions regarding timing for launch in their respective territories. Details will be updated on our website.

3. What IOS devices are supported?

iPad 8th gen, iPad mini 5th gen, iPad pro 3rd gen, iPhone 11 and later models are supported. User may need to update the devices to the latest OS version (17.6 or newer version), in order to work with our sonar unit.

4. Will the product support Android?

Currently only IOS is supported. Android support will be released in mid-2025. Our sonar products are future proofing, i.e. existing hardware will be supported by future app releases, both IOS and Android.

5. What is the power input specification?

Our live sonar requires 12V DC nominal power input, with input range from 11 ~ 18V. Typical power consumption is 18W, and max power consumption is 30W.

Product details will be updated on our website and youtube channel:
https://accuphy.com
https://www.youtube.com/@Accuphy

Thanks again and best regards,

Accuphy Team

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