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Yeah I plan to put a kill switch on. It all has to be rewired anyway. What was on there when I ran it is all temp. Its kind of a turd compared to the boats around our part of the country, but you have to start somewhere. Little leery huh I thought it looked great when I went and picked it up. :mrgreen:

And for the sake of the picture thread here is what it looks like right now. Still got long ways to go.

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Here's what $1500 bought me. :D
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1995 1648 F&F all welded boat, 1995 haulrite trailer, and 1995 50/35 Yamaha jet drive. Only thing that I've had to get replaced so far was the water pump and thermostat.

My buddy just got a 2005 1852 Legend SS with a 90/65 Etec on the back from CowTown. I've got major jet boat envy now and am thinking hard about selling my current boat and upgrading. I'd love to have an 1860, front and back decks, and a perforated floor with a 150 etec or optimax on the back. I've got to pay off a few things before that happens though. :mrgreen:

This is the pic of his boat from CowTown. It's the same boat, except his has the Etec instead of a Johnson.
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You stole that boat @ $1500. But I think I mentioned that to you on the forum before. If you want a different boat I'll give ya your money back on that one. LOL
 
Seth said:
Here's what $1500 bought me. :D
full_boat.jpg

1995 1648 F&F all welded boat, 1995 haulrite trailer, and 1995 50/35 Yamaha jet drive. Only thing that I've had to get replaced so far was the water pump and thermostat.

My buddy just got a 2005 1852 Legend SS with a 90/65 Etec on the back from CowTown. I've got major jet boat envy now and am thinking hard about selling my current boat and upgrading. I'd love to have an 1860, front and back decks, and a perforated floor with a 150 etec or optimax on the back. I've got to pay off a few things before that happens though. :mrgreen:

This is the pic of his boat from CowTown. It's the same boat, except his has the Etec instead of a Johnson.
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Seth,

Just my opinion but if you’re confident the 150hp is what you want I might recommend a 56” bottom.

I don’t know where you run….you may need a super shallow rig or often carry a big load. Though the 60” will run in less water the extra 4” of bottom width will cut your top end speed by quite a bit. You may not even be interested in top end speed…I don’t know…but if you think like the majority of us the new motor is awesome until you get the “itch” again…for something bigger.

I know of a few boys on the same stretch of river I run…one has a 175 on a 1756, the other has a 200 on an 1856. Both of these boats draft about the same water as my 1852 w/the Merc 60/40….if not the same it is within .5”.

That said, I know of another fellow on the river with a 90hp Johnson 2-stroke on a 1756. I can hang with, if not out run, him with my 60/40. On short runs we hang close but on long runs I will gradually pull from him.

Just a thought.
 
Toby from MO said:
Seth said:
Here's what $1500 bought me. :D
full_boat.jpg

1995 1648 F&F all welded boat, 1995 haulrite trailer, and 1995 50/35 Yamaha jet drive. Only thing that I've had to get replaced so far was the water pump and thermostat.

My buddy just got a 2005 1852 Legend SS with a 90/65 Etec on the back from CowTown. I've got major jet boat envy now and am thinking hard about selling my current boat and upgrading. I'd love to have an 1860, front and back decks, and a perforated floor with a 150 etec or optimax on the back. I've got to pay off a few things before that happens though. :mrgreen:

This is the pic of his boat from CowTown. It's the same boat, except his has the Etec instead of a Johnson.
2006%20Legend%201852%20FB%201.jpg

Seth,

Just my opinion but if you’re confident the 150hp is what you want I might recommend a 56” bottom.

I don’t where you run….you may need a super shallow rig or often carry a big load. Though the 60” will run in less water the extra 4” of bottom width will cut your top end speed by quite a bit. You may not even be interested in top end speed…I don’t know…but if you think like the majority of us the new motor is awesome until you get the “itch” again…for something bigger.

I know of a few boys on the same stretch of river I run…one has a 175 on a 1756, the other has a 200 on an 1856. Both of these boats draft about the same water as my 1852 w/the Merc 60/40….if not the same it is within .5”.

That said, I know of another fellow on the river with a 90hp Johnson 2-stroke on a 1756. I can hang with, if not out run, him with my 60/40. On short runs we hang close but on long runs I will gradually pull from him.

Just a thought.

Now this is what I am hoping this forum can turn into. Jet Boaters coming together to help each other out.
 
Thanks for that bit of advice Toby. The only reason I want the 1860 hull is for the extra space. I like getting out on the big rivers and the extra width for added stability is nice. I know it hurts my top end, but I'll still be moving plenty fast for my liking. The added stability and room would make it up the speed loss for me. Then again, 4" probably isn't going to much a whole lot of difference so the extra speed would be nice.

I've seen some 2072 sea arks running jets. That would be the catfishermans dream boat for the shallow Gasconade and Osage Rivers near me. They don't go very fast, you can run the shallows and be very comfortable when you do get to your fishing hole.

How do those boats with the 175 and 200 compare to each other as far as speed?
 
Seth said:
Thanks for that bit of advice Toby. The only reason I want the 1860 hull is for the extra space. I like getting out on the big rivers and the extra width for added stability is nice. I know it hurts my top end, but I'll still be moving plenty fast for my liking. The added stability and room would make it up the speed loss for me.

I've seen some 2072 sea arks running jets. That would be the catfishermans dream boat for the shallow Gasconade and Osage Rivers near me.

A friend of a friend has a 2072 Sea Ark. He has a 250hp Optimax on it. :shock:

He claims he's been clocked at 96mph...running down river on the Mississippi. I'd like to see that.

Sea Arks are argueably the best aluminum boats on the water.
 
Toby from MO said:
He claims he's been clocked at 96mph...running down river on the Mississippi. I'd like to see that.

Sea Arks are argueably the best aluminum boats on the water.

Holy smokes that would scare the crap outta anybody! :shock:
 
I can't believe that! There's several guys that run 225 2472 big cats than can only manage in the 50's. How in the world could you gain 40 mph by adding another 50 hp?

If it's true, then GREAT GOOGILY MOOGILY!! :shock:
 
Seth said:
I can't believe that! There's several guys that run 225 2472 big cats than can only manage in the 50's. How in the world could you gain 40 mph by adding another 50 hp?

If it's true, then GREAT GOOGILY MOOGILY!! :shock:

Not to mistake...I'm talking about a prop motor. I still have to see it to believe it. Though a 250 (prop) will push a 19'/20' glass boat to upper 60's/low 70's so I guess it could be plausible given a light enough load.
 
sorry, guys been away for the week and havnt been on the computer much. thanks for the compliments on my boat in the first post. Im an extreme river rat. I usually run the upper current from powder mill up and from doniphan up to yellow bank. (on those bigger river days) :beer: We fish alot in the summer time on weekdays, (mostly to keep out of the way of weekend traffic) for big smallies. I have been on the black river a few times below the dam. I know a couple guys that has some really fast outboard jets, i mean really fast, but it takes alot of time and $$$$ to get a jet anywhere near 60 mph. I have seen a 60/40 come real close to that mark a few times. I know a few people around the poplar bluff area that has some cool 250 efi mercs that really scream. Anyway, i really like the site, thanks for getting it started. I cant wait to see more boats and learn how to go faster.

cheers
turner
 
turne032 said:
sorry, guys been away for the week and havnt been on the computer much. thanks for the compliments on my boat in the first post. Im an extreme river rat. I usually run the upper current from powder mill up and from doniphan up to yellow bank. (on those bigger river days) :beer: We fish alot in the summer time on weekdays, (mostly to keep out of the way of weekend traffic) for big smallies. I have been on the black river a few times below the dam. I know a couple guys that has some really fast outboard jets, i mean really fast, but it takes alot of time and $$$$ to get a jet anywhere near 60 mph. I have seen a 60/40 come real close to that mark a few times. I know a few people around the poplar bluff area that has some cool 250 efi mercs that really scream. Anyway, i really like the site, thanks for getting it started. I cant wait to see more boats and learn how to go faster.

cheers
turner

This guy with the 60/40 pushing 60mph...is this same guy that has the insanely fast 150hp? I talked to Brian Barnes last week and he was telling me about his engine work. Said he is also tuning engines for better fuel mileage as well.
 
yea, my 60/40 gets great fuel economy. I can go all day on 6 gal. I think someone already adressed this in a different forum. The faster you boat preforms, the more you can run at 1/2 to 3/4 throttle which instantly saves a ton of fuel. The last i heard teh 60/40 was bumping 57 mph. which is right there at the 60 mph mark. he built a merc 2 liter that was crazy fast, but it could jump out of the hole like no other boat i have seen.
 
this is my little cous. boat
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this is 2 cyl 40 hp johnson that my friend races,
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its super fast, the only thing that can outrun it is the 3 cyl johnson 60/40
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this was the fastest outboard jet(hence the word was) ran by cowtown usa of cuba missouri
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And then the beast was born.....Cowtown would not even bring that evinrude to the race last fall for fear of being outran.
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A friend of mine has a '76 XS65 Merc, I'm trying to talk him into letting me see if my pump will fit it. :shock: Motor supposedly made about 98 hp back in the day.
 

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