Plant Based Food

Sounds like a good idea from a health perspective. I've had some that even tastes pretty good. Not the same, but pretty good.

I was cruising around the grocery store with Mrs Ldubs yesterday. Saw they had plant based fish fillets in the vegan section. Nothing wrong with that. I just wonder why if you don't want to eat fish why you want to eat something that looks and tries to taste like fish.

I think we need to counter with meat based vegatables.

I am one that needs to watch his diet, heart attack and triple bypass from my arthritus, not from poor diet. There are plenty of ways to eat meat if prepared properly. Not a fan of plant based artificial stuff. I do eat very little red meat, but plenty of chicken and pork and often meals with no meat. I love fish, prefer that over a steak ! Preparation can mean everything in ones diet, no need to eat nasty tasting stuff. However, flavor is improving as time goes on. I do try the new things on occasion and when a good one comes along, great, until then watch how you cook, far mire important that what you eat !!

Few years ago I was almost 260lbs. I went on what was essentially a modified keto/carnivore diet and lost 65lbs. My bloodwork before was borderline diabetic, hi cholesterol hi BP etc now my bloodwork looks great. It's not meat it's the highly processed things, carbs, and artificial sweeteners that are in almost everything these days that cause health issues. This country has an obsession with highly processed junk it passes off as food.

My neighbor is a nurse and speaks often about processed food. They claim plant based foods are supposed to be healthier for us, but....isn't that a highly processed food ? Making leaves and grass taste like a steak is gonna take a lot of processing !!

Beef is OK. You feed the cow plant based material and eat the meat.
I'm a meatatarian by choice. Mostly chicken and fish as beef and pork tend to bung me up if you know what I mean.
I also love vegetables of all sorts, especially the ones that come right out of my garden.
Sweets may be my downfall. Well OK, they are my downfall. But in moderation.
Now I need to go on a Sea Food Diet. See food and eat it.
Then I'll get some extra fries. I mean exercise.

My family of 4 goes through a lot of beef. Typically 1 steer per year. This January I will get my first taste of American wagyu( angus/wagyu cross) Pic is the day I brought em home roughly 9 months ago. They are a lot bigger now.

I eat a lot of venison, bout as healthy a red meat as you can get.
I do eat plant based stuff as well, meat packing plant that is.

Enjoy your extra dose of glyphosate with that fake meat.

I'll take my glyphosate after it has been processed by a steer.

airshot said:

I am one that needs to watch his diet, heart attack and triple bypass from my arthritus, not from poor diet. There are plenty of ways to eat meat if prepared properly. Not a fan of plant based artificial stuff. I do eat very little red meat, but plenty of chicken and pork and often meals with no meat. I love fish, prefer that over a steak ! Preparation can mean everything in ones diet, no need to eat nasty tasting stuff. However, flavor is improving as time goes on. I do try the new things on occasion and when a good one comes along, great, until then watch how you cook, far mire important that what you eat !!

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Welcome to the zipper club! Congratulations, you survived.

How long ago was your bypass surgery? I had the same, a triple bypass.

Everything tasted like crap for six months. Took maybe a year to get my sense of taste back.

Two years this November. Back up to walking the dogs two miles a day and riding the bike about 8 miles. Plus all yard work, gardening, rebuilding my boat, etc.

I read somewhere that a good nit of these new plant based meats are worse for you than real beef.
I tried a burger once not knowing what it was and it was so bad I couldn't swallow it. It had an off or chemical taste to it. I thought the girl coking at the grille used some kitchen chemical intsead of seasoning. She and her friend seamed to thing they were great, but the rest of us there spit the flower pots around the deck.

The way I see it beef is plant based, cattle eat grass, the turn that grass into beef, we eat the beef.

I'm actually not a big beef eater, I'll take fish, chicken, or pork over a steak, and any time I can I put venison in the freezer as well, buy the recent spread of CWD in deer has made me a bit leery after several people I knew died of Creutzfeldt-jakob disease. Each of them were avid hunters and ate a lot of venison, but I'm not sue or not if there's a direct link there or not. Until I know for sure, I'll lay off local venison.

flatheadsteve said:

Few years ago I was almost 260lbs. I went on what was essentially a modified keto/carnivore diet and lost 65lbs. My bloodwork before was borderline diabetic, hi cholesterol hi BP etc now my bloodwork looks great. It's not meat it's the highly processed things, carbs, and artificial sweeteners that are in almost everything these days that cause health issues. This country has an obsession with highly processed junk it passes off as food.

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About the same for me, but diabetic. Lost 80 lbs and eat very differently now. No sugar or carbs or processed food. Mostly meat and green leafy veggies. Off all medication and blood work looks great now. I use Stevia for a sweetener. I use the unsweetened Kool Aid in lemonade flavor with Stevia for drinking.

As long as I don't have to listen to them lecture, I don't really care if the vegan folk don't want to eat or use anything from animals. I just don't understand why they then want their veggies to look like it came from animals. I just makes no sense.

Over the years we also have migrated away from a lot of red meats in favor of chicken or seafood. And a lot of vegetables. Like @airshot says, learning how to cook with flavor makes a big difference. It is nice every once in a while to have a steak or ribs, etc. But I enjoy chicken from the grill as much if not more than I do beef or pork. The thing I get a real craving for every so often is meatloaf (especially the left overs). Haha.

LDUBS said:

As long as I don't have to listen to them lecture, I don't really care if the vegan folk don't want to eat or use anything from animals. I just don't understand why they then want their veggies to look like it came from animals. I just makes no sense.

Over the years we also have migrated away from a lot of red meats in favor of chicken or seafood. And a lot of vegetables. Like @airshot says, learning how to cook with flavor makes a big difference. It is nice every once in a while to have a steak or ribs, etc. But I enjoy chicken from the grill as much if not more than I do beef or pork. The thing I get a real craving for every so often is meatloaf (especially the left overs). Haha.

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Have you seen the "vegans" that eat meat after they are out on the town and have had a few. Maybe a few too many. They go out and find a big greasy burger topped with bacon and cheese and cram it down their gullet.

Kind of like a Muslim binging on pork and booze. Or a Jew eating cheese on a hamburger with a milk chaser. Something isn't right.

I'm with you. I don't care what other people do, just don't be some kind of zealot and try and change everyone else.

Just finished grinding some strip and chuck for burgers tonight!

OldSailor85 said:

Welcome to the zipper club! Congratulations, you survived.

How long ago was your bypass surgery? I had the same, a triple bypass.

Everything tasted like crap for six months. Took maybe a year to get my sense of taste back.

Two years this November. Back up to walking the dogs two miles a day and riding the bike about 8 miles. Plus all yard work, gardening, rebuilding my boat, etc.

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2017 I had mine, July,7 th. Only lost my taste and appetite for about 8-10 weeks. Still don't have a big appetite, then again, don't do a whole lot due to the arthritus. Mine is Polymyalgia, an arthritis of the muscles but have rhumetoid in the hands.

OldSailor85 said:

Have you seen the "vegans" that eat meat after they are out on the town and have had a few. Maybe a few too many. They go out and find a big greasy burger topped with bacon and cheese and cram it down their gullet.

Kind of like a Muslim binging on pork and booze. Or a Jew eating cheese on a hamburger with a milk chaser. Something isn't right.

I'm with you. I don't care what other people do, just don't be some kind of zealot and try and change everyone else.

Just finished grinding some strip and chuck for burgers tonight!

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A glass of milk and a cheeseburger just don't seem to go together, no matter what you are! Hahahah

LDUBS said:

A glass of milk and a cheeseburger just don't seem to go together, no matter what you are! Hahahah

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Make it a milkshake and serve it with a side of home made French fries and I would call that a good meal lol